How many times should I forgive someone for the same thing?
by Mia
Posted on 14-05-2022 01:54 AM
After being wronged, our emotional landscape gets dominated by one or two loud (and sometimes culturally-engrained) emotions, typically some form of anger. But there are almost always other emotions present and worth considering on the road to forgiveness.
Posted on january 15, 2013 by lkgraham have you ever been hurt by the same person so many times that you just can’t forgive them anymore? perhaps you’ve built a wall around your heart to prevent anyone from getting through because of the hurt you’ve experienced in the past. Maybe that hurt came from someone really close to you…. A friend who had an affair with your spouse; a parent whose promise to tackle their substance abuse has been one broken promise after another; a co-worker who spreads vicious lies about you in the office. If you haven’t had one of these experiences, i’m sure you likely have someone in your life that has let you down one too many times. We’ve all been there. After all, it’s part of the human condition.
At this point it is necessary to clear up some of the misconceptions about forgiveness. In some ways, it is easier to say what forgiveness is not than what it is. These misconceptions matter because sometimes when we say we can’t or won’t forgive, we are actually talking about something other than biblical forgiveness. Let me list a few things forgiveness does not mean:.
21 then peter came to jesus and asked, “lord, when my fellow believer sins against me, how many times must i forgive him? should i forgive him as many as seven times?†22 jesus answered, “i tell you, you must forgive him more than seven times. You must forgive him even if he wrongs you seventy times seven.
I was reading an excellent resource for worship planners put out by our national church body, the wisconsin evangelical lutheran synod , when i came across this: forgiveness must be learned, and peter thought he had figured it out. From the elders of the jews peter had heard: “if a man transgresses one time, forgive him. If a man transgresses two times, forgive him. If a man transgresses three times, forgive him. If a man transgresses four times, do not forgive him. †three times, the elders said, was the limit of forgiveness for a good jew. Peter, however, was willing to go much further; not three times, but seven times, peter thought with a smile. Until jesus said….
When peter asked jesus how many times he should forgive someone, what was jesus' reply? | seven | seventy times seven | until you no longer sin | you shouldn't forgive them | in the bible or not? : "it's one of the greatest gifts you can give yourself, to forgive. Forgive everybody. ".
The bible has plenty to say about forgiveness. Where the old testament focuses mainly on god's forgiveness of individuals or groups, the teachings of jesus in the gospels also address how human beings can and should forgive each other. Those teachings, however, are a precarious guide for 21st-century human relations. While jesus mentions forgiveness several times, he never defines the term, leaving contemporary listeners to fill in the blanks. Is forgiveness something a person does, i. E. , does it indicate an action, such as reconciliation or amnesty? does forgiveness require action on the part of the offender? is forgiveness something a person feels?.
HOW MANY TIMES OUGHT WE FORGIVE?
Some of jesus’ disciples apparently had the same problem you do, and on one occasion one of them asked jesus if he should forgive someone as many as seven times.
This is what jesus teaches us though this answer to his disciple peter's question. Jesus also tells a sample story (parable) to explain how the judgment will be in the kingdom of god. Bible mathew 18:21-35: then peter came to jesus and asked "lord, if my brother keeps on sinning against me, how many times do i have to forgive him? seven times?" "no, not seven times," answered jesus, "but seventy times seven, because the kingdom of heaven is like this.
Today’s daily bible reading is from matthew 18:21-35. In this scripture, peter asks jesus how many times he should forgive his brother who sinned against him. How about seven times? jesus answers peter, “no; you should forgive him seventy times seven. †how many times have you forgiven someone who wronged you?.
When a family member does something that hurts our feelings a couple of times, it may not feel like a big deal to forgive them. What if they do it ten times? fifty times? now it is a different story. You may remember that jesus’ disciples asked him about this. “then peter came up and said to him, ‘lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and i forgive him? as many as seven times?’ jesus said to him, ‘i do not say to you seven times, but seventy-seven times’†(matthew 18:21–22). Peter thought that forgiving his brother seven times for something was quite generous. Jesus blasted that out of the water when he called peter to forgive seventy-seven times. This, of course, was not meant to be a literal number. Seventy-five, seventy-six, almost there! it was a call to a lifetime and lifestyle of forgiveness.
Daily devotions thursday, april 23rd then peter came to jesus and asked, “lord, how many times shall i forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? up to seven times?†jesus answered, “i tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times. Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand bags of gold was brought to him. Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt. At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and i will pay back everything. ’ the servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go. But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred silver coins. He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded. His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘be patient with me, and i will pay it back. ’.
In sunday’s reading , peter asks jesus how many times he has to forgive a brother who sins against him. Jesus tell him to forget the math. Why?.
{jesus' #70x7 forgiveness statement is #powerful -- de-coding it --} ↓ jesus christ taught us "take heed to yourselves: if thy best gifts for brother anything for a brother in need things to get for your brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, i repent; thou shalt forgive him. " - luke 17:3-4. It was apparently from this teaching, that peter got the idea that he only needed to forgive his brother seven times. So he went to the lord, and asked him about it, seeking to confirm his assumptions. Christ’s response to peter is extremely complex. In fact, the true complexity of it has gone un-noticed by many christians. When the lord revealed it to me, i was amazed.
Peter wanted to forgive seven times
The first time i remember hearing this gospel, i was about nine years old. (i’m sure that is not because it hadn’t been read in my presence before, but rather that i was not very attentive to the readings when i was a younger child.
Meditation: does mercy overlook justice? justice demands that everyone be given their due. So when is it right to show mercy and pardon to those who have acted unjustly or wrongly? the prophet amos speaks of god forgiving transgression three times, but warns that god may not revoke punishment for the fourth (see amos 1:3-13; 2:1-6). When peter posed the question of forgiveness, he characteristically offered an answer he thought jesus would be pleased with. Why not forgive seven times! how unthinkable for jesus to counter with the proposition that one must forgive seventy times that.
From “growing in the character of a discipleâ€: chapter 12 – what it really meant by forgiving others, and what does it involve? the apostle peter asked jesus a question which must have occurred to most of us – how many times are we expected to forgive people? is there a limit? what if they just carry on sinning against us, again and again? jesus answered peter by telling him a story:.
19 “again, truly i tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my father in heaven. 20 for where two or three gather in my name, there am i with them. â€21 then peter came to jesus and asked, “lord, how many times shall i forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? up to seven times?â€.
Sermon for the seventeenth sunday after pentecost the text: matthew 18:21-35 21 then peter came up and said to him, “lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and i forgive him? as many as seven times?†22 jesus said to him, “i do not say to you seven times, but seventy-seven times.
“then peter came to jesus and asked, ‘lord, how many times shall i forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? up to seven times?’ jesus answered, ‘i tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times’†(matthew 18:21-22). We will have to forgive again and again. Not necessarily for the same offenses, but maybe, depending on our situations. The lord provides the strength and the insight for us to keep forgiving our spouses. If we do it in our own strength, we will fail. However, if we depend on god’s grace to forgive our spouses, we will always have room in our hearts to forgive.
Jesus said forgive “seventy times sevenâ€
The ambiguity comes from a difference between the hebrew old testament and the septuagint (a greek translation).
Treasury of scripture jesus said to him, i say not to you, until seven times: but, until seventy times seven. But. Matthew 6:11,12,14,15 give us this day our daily bread… isaiah 55:7 let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our god, for he will abundantly pardon.
“then peter came to jesus and asked, “lord, how many times shall i forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? up to seven times?†jesus answered, “i tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times. †-matthew 18:21-22 it may be easy to forgive someone the first time they do you wrong and maybe even the second. The true test comes when someone continues to do you wrong over and over again.
Peter might have heard the teachings of jesus about forgiveness many times, and this doubt had been troubling him, about the maximum number of times forgiveness should be offered. But he asked the right person! jesus considered his question and explained it with a story. Here we go! note: if you already know the story, then skip this and go right ahead with the next section.
November 30, 2021 21 then peter came to jesus and asked, “lord, how many times shall i forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? up to seven times?†22 jesus answered, “i tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times. †(matthew 18:21-22) let’s face it: forgiveness is complicated! when simon peter asked jesus how many times he should forgive his brother or sister, he already had a number in mind. In fact, he doubled the number which the rabbis taught during his day, and added another forgiveness token to his answer. Jesus gave him a number which literally astounded him; and this probably pushes us to the limit, as well. Most of us, if we are offended by the same person that many times, we would certainly move on. We wouldn’t give a habitual offender any more room to offend or hurt us. This is complicated. Jesus told us to keep on forgiving. Why? because god is in the forgiveness business. It is a family business, and you are to be part of his business. That’s not easy.
Today’s reading – matthew 18-19 scripture – matthew 18:21-22 – then peter came to him and said, “lord, how many times could my brother sin against me and i forgive him?  as many as seven times?† “i tell you, not as many as seven,†jesus said to him, “but seventy times seven. â€.
September 14, 2014 peter was an impetuous disciple who, in deserting and denying even knowing jesus, experienced his own deep need for forgiveness. But one day he audaciously asked jesus, “how many times shall i forgive my brother when he sins against me? as many as seven times?†here we pause. What actually is peter asking? if somebody does me wrong why would i need to forgive them seven times? i mean, what’s the point? either you forgive a person…once…or not at all. Why would i need to forgive a person seven times for one offense? ah, but maybe peter isn’t asking about one offense. Maybe he’s asking about a person who has sinned against him seven times. This raises the stakes considerable. Consider this: at work a colleague comes in every morning and greets you with a blatantly sexist remark. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven days in a row he insults you. Do you forgive him today for the same thing he did yesterday? let’s make it worse. Behind the scenes your colleague lies about you to your boss so that when it’s time for a promotion you get passed over. And over the course of time she does this seven times. Seven promotions down the drain. Yet, are you expected to forgive her all seven times?.
Can you forgive 490 times?
Sometimes it can be easier to die for jesus than to live for him year after year and fight the good fight.
November 19, 2019 “then peter came to jesus and asked, ‘lord, how many times shall i forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? up to seven times?’ jesus answered, ‘i tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times. †(matthew 18:21-22) let’s face it: forgiveness is complicated! when simon peter asked jesus how many times he should forgive his mugs for brother what present should i get my brother what to gift your brother or sister, he already had a number in mind. In fact, he doubled the number which the rabbis taught during his day and added another forgiveness token to the mix, when he answered his own question. Jesus gives him a number which literally astounded him…and probably pushes us to the limit, as well. Most of us, if offended by the same person that many times, would have moved on. We wouldn’t give a habitual offender any more room to offend or hurt us. So, this is complicated. Jesus said to keep on forgiving. Why? because god is in the forgiveness business…and it’s a family business…and you are to act like you are in his business. That’s not easy.
Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and i forgive him? up to seven times? then peter came to him and said, "lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and i forgive him? up to seven times?" jesus said to him, "i do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.
Ask students, if someone does something wrong to you, and then says they’re sorry, should you forgive them? (yes. )if they do something wrong to you again, and then they say they’re sorry again, should you forgive them again? (yes. )how many times should you forgive a person when they do wrong things to you?.
There are five burning reasons why you need to forgive those who hurt you. Notice i used the word “burning. †personally, i used to think about offenses done to me about a thousand times and wallow in the past until i was burning with anger. Unfortunately, i didn’t know this particular coping mechanism was wrong. I thought since it was happening in my thought life, i was good because it was contained. No one was getting hurt.
Why we need to forgive in these cases
Matthew 18:15-35 key verse: 18:35 "this is how my heavenly father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart. "in last sunday's passage jesus taught about life in the christian community. We learned that causing little ones to stumble is a very serious matter. In today's passage jesus continues to teach about life in the christian community. Just as causing little ones to stumble is serious, so also sinning against brothers and sisters is very serious. Wherever people gather together, conflicts will arise and people hurt each other. The same is true in the christian fellowship. It is because our mindset and lifestyle are still influenced by the power of sin. Even though we become christians, we don't become perfect immediately. John calvin compared the sin in believers to a many headed hydra, whose heads need to be cut off one by one. We have to fight against the sin within us persistently. Otherwise sin damages us and others through us. Sin breaks relationships between fellow believers. However, these days many do not recognize sin as sin. They try to understand everything in terms of psychology, sociology or culture. Their view of people lacks a very important element: that people are sinners. In many cases, their attempts to solve problems are little more than escapism and irresponsibility. In actuality, sin has power to destroy relationships, people's character, families and the society. This is why, in spite of all the advances in technology, medicine and social policy, we have not found a way to establish healthy communities. Some of the most advanced nations have the most dysfunctional families. What is the solution to this? in today's passage jesus shows us how to solve this problem. First jesus teaches us that sin between people in a christian community is very serious and must be dealt with appropriately. But this must be done in a spirit of forgiveness. Jesus emphasizes this through the parable of god's mercy and an unmerciful servant. Forgiveness is the only way to solve the sin problem between people and to establish a healthy christian community. Let's learn to forgive brothers and sisters from our hearts.
When we do not forgive
Bible blog forgiving people who've wronged us is one of the most difficult things god asks us to do. Minor insults and slights can be easier to forgive, but what if the offense against you is so painful that it seems unpardonable? how can you forgive someone who broke your heart or hurt someone you love?.
Background text: romans 10:8d-10 devotional text: luke 23:34 this week, we celebrate the resurrection of jesus, the christ. In so doing, we look at his words from the cross in luke 23:34, as he called out, “father forgive them, for they know not what they do!†and they cast lots to divide his clothes.
Back ��������� bible studies ��������������� home page 1. Intro 1. 1. In this last section of chapter 18 of matthew we will look at the who area of forgiving others as a christian. 1. 1. 1. Many christians go through their life carrying huge bitternesses and hurts, and these things then become a bondage to their lives until they learn to forgive.
Patrick morley patrick morley: hi. Hello, men. Welcome to man in the mirror bible study. We’re in this series, the core teachings of jesus. And today, we’re going to be talking about this topic: how to forgive anyone for anything. Before we get going, though, we want to welcome those who are online. And so i wonder if you would join me in giving a very warm, rousing man in the mirror welcome to those people online on the count of 3. 1, 2, 3. Hurrah. Welcome, guys. We’re glad to have all of you with us.
1. How do you define forgiveness? when we get hurt, we form a bond with the offender and the offense. Forgiveness is the process of cutting the link created by harm, thus setting us free. 2. What is the relationship between love and forgiveness? we create bonds when we love and when we get hurt. While love creates good feelings, hurts create fear and stress. They are mutually exclusive. When we forgive, we severe the bondage to the hurt and make us available for love. When we do not forgive, we diminish our capacity for love. Our heart hardens.
I was raised to forgive, to mend friendships, to try to understand others’ points of view, to empathize. None of that has changed. I’ve simply learned to control when and how i do that.
Active default jesus’ listeners would have seen that this parable is dealing not with local events but with the practices of the roman empire. Everything in the story is exaggerated to make the point that forgiveness and mercy alone can save the world. The king discovers that one of his servants owes him 10,000 talents, or one hundred million denarii. The king’s decision is cruel: sell the servant and his family. This was forbidden by jewish law, nor will it get him his money back, but it will send out a warning to others. Yet when the servant pleads for mercy the king wipes out the whole debt and restores him to his service.
How to ask for forgiveness
Gathered together on this page are a number of example prayers and resources for asking god for forgiveness and for forgiving others who have wronged us. You may like to begin by reading the short article further down on " how to ask god for forgiveness " and then pray the " prayer for the forgiveness of sins " or the traditional anglican prayer. There is also a short prayer for strength to help with overcoming whatever sin or difficulty you are experiencing.
Forgiveness, in a psychological sense, is the intentional and voluntary process by which one who may initially feel victimized, undergoes a change in feelings and attitude regarding a given offense, and overcomes negative emotions such as resentment and vengeance (however justified it might be). Theorists differ, however, in the extent to which they believe forgiveness also implies replacing the negative emotions with positive attitudes (i. E. An increased ability to wish the offender well). In certain legal contexts, forgiveness is a term for absolving or giving up all claims on account of debt , loan , obligation, or other claims.
1. Unforgiveness stands between you and god. Why? because we are all sinners, and through grace god has forgiven us and sees us as righteous. If god can forgive us all the awful things we’ve done, we can forgive others. For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly father will also forgive you. 15 but if you do not forgive others their sins, your father will not forgive your sins. Matthew 6:14-15.
C. S. Lewis once said, “to be a christian means to forgive the inexcusable because god has forgiven the inexcusable in you. â€god's will is for us to forgive our enemies. He wants us to put away all wrath and malice and bitterness. And it is for our good too. Someone said that resentment is like drinking poison hoping the other person dies. Unforgiveness puts us into a prison of suffering. It is a heavy burden for the soul. Unforgiveness is like blood-sucking leeches of your spiritual life.
For many, the saying, “forgive and forget,†comes to mind, but forgiveness doesn’t always require forgetting. If we’re lied to, stolen from, treated with indifference, subjected to angry outbursts, or in some other way hurt, forgetting the past and letting our guard down completely is probably not the wisest course. That sort of forgiveness may come across as an invitation: “i’m a doormat. Walk on me!â€.
“unlimited forgiveness ought to be demonstrated with mercy toward others because it is the reflection of a right relationship with the father. †or to state it another way. God’s forgiveness of our sins should motivate us to forgive those who offend us.
Sin is the dark inheritance of every human being. I came to this world to forgive sins so that you could be reconciled with my heavenly father and partake of his divinity and of the glories of the kingdom of heaven. In my prayer to the father i have taught you to say �forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. � in other words, your forgiveness is guaranteed so long as you forgive those who upset you and sin against you.
Forgiveness in the Bible
Forgiveness is primarily an act of obedience, and the bible says that you must look beyond your hurts and forgive continually those who wronged you in the past. This is the scriptures’ stands on the topic of forgiveness and we are expected, especially saints of the lord to adopt this position.
Forgiveness is a Choice–How to Forgive the Unforgivable
This incident struck me for its profound difference between merely apologizing and taking it a step further to seek forgiveness. When i say “i’m sorry,†i admit wrongdoing by taking responsibility for my actions. It is something i have long taught my children. As a result, my kids are now pros at saying sorry, and in retrospect, i’ll admit that it can easily get old after hearing it for every little transgression. For a while, i could not understand why my kids saying sorry so frequently started bugging me, but after hearing shann’s story, it all clicked.
“how do i forgive my sister after what she did?†asks one of my she blossoms readers on how to start healing broken family relationships. “she refused to help me take care of our dying father and forced me to plan the funeral alone. My sister hurt me deeply. It’s just the two of us now. We’re all that’s left in our family but still, forgiveness feels impossible. â€.
Back when i was getting out of my own abusive marriage, i binge-watched patrick doyle on the dove youtube channel (no longer available). There was one that was particularly helpful in explaining the difference between forgiveness and reconciliation called how reconciliation works (again, no longer available. )this is a subject a lot of christians are confused about. I know i was.
Last week, i wrote about joseph and his long-range perspective of god's activity in his life. Joseph had also learned about forgiveness. At the death of their father, his brothers feared that joseph had been treating them kindly out of respect for jacob. They sent a message to joseph saying that jacob wanted him to forgive his brothers. Joseph wept, and the brothers fell before him offering to be his slaves. Joseph refused to stand in judgment of them and assured them that they were forgiven. He not only forgave them; he offered them kindness: " ‘so then, don't be afraid. I will provide for you and your children. ' and he reassured them and spoke kindly to them. " genesis 50:21.
Every year of mankind’s fallen history witnesses countless sins, large and small. When they are committed against us, it raises the question of forgiveness, since jesus made it clear that we must be willing to forgive. The prior two years witnessed particularly heinous crimes. The year 2001 saw the terrorist attacks, and 2002 saw the priestly sexual abuse scandal. In the wake of both of them, people were pondering the subject of forgiveness.
Picture yourself at the termination of a quarrel or major dispute. Rather than reacting with old patterns of residual anger, revenge, and hurt, visualize offering kindness, love, and forgiveness. Do this right now by sending out these “true virtue†thoughts to any resentments you’re currently carrying. Make this your standard response to any future altercations: i end on love, no matter what!.
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